Comments on: Microsoft: You Need a New Marketing Department http://www.binaryfortress.com/2007/11/microsoft-you-need-a-new-marketing-department/ Jon Tackabury's Indie Software Development and Personal Ramblings Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:14:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jon Tackabury http://www.binaryfortress.com/2007/11/microsoft-you-need-a-new-marketing-department/comment-page-1/#comment-2631 Jon Tackabury Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:19:43 +0000 http://www.binaryfortress.com/2007/11/microsoft-you-need-a-new-marketing-department/#comment-2631 Please don't feel gutted. :) The Express editions are great for getting started, but I just wish they offered a bit more. For example, the express versions don't support IDE plugins, 64 bit builds, mobile devices or source control. You need to upgrade to the Standard edition to get those goodies, which are all things that I use. The thing that really annoys me is that there are hardly any differences between Standard and Pro, yet there is a $500 price difference. The only thing I really want with the pro version is the remote debugging which is critical when trying to troubleshoot problems with different operating system, or system configurations. However, that $500 is way out of my price range, so I'm just left dreaming. You can find an excellent comparison of the Visual Studio 2005 editions here: <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-ca/vs2005/aa700921.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-ca/vs2005/aa700921.aspx</a> Please don’t feel gutted. :) The Express editions are great for getting started, but I just wish they offered a bit more. For example, the express versions don’t support IDE plugins, 64 bit builds, mobile devices or source control. You need to upgrade to the Standard edition to get those goodies, which are all things that I use. The thing that really annoys me is that there are hardly any differences between Standard and Pro, yet there is a $500 price difference. The only thing I really want with the pro version is the remote debugging which is critical when trying to troubleshoot problems with different operating system, or system configurations. However, that $500 is way out of my price range, so I’m just left dreaming. You can find an excellent comparison of the Visual Studio 2005 editions here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-ca/vs2005/aa700921.aspx

]]> By: Sprogz http://www.binaryfortress.com/2007/11/microsoft-you-need-a-new-marketing-department/comment-page-1/#comment-2622 Sprogz Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:05:51 +0000 http://www.binaryfortress.com/2007/11/microsoft-you-need-a-new-marketing-department/#comment-2622 I agree that Microsoft's "Developers! Developers! Developers!" focus seems to have, shall we say, become blurred? <blockquote>You’ve got 4 "express" versions that are of no use to people like me.</blockquote> I'm a really casual developer having never written anything good enough to quality as "give–awayable" so I'm not really sure <strong>what features are missing from the express editions</strong> that quality this statement? I've always though they were genuinely functional products that simply didn't offer all the "team" development options that I, as a one–man developer, only ever found confusing or filled the menu with options I'd never click? To think, I've downloaded the <a href="http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=104679" rel="nofollow">Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions DVD ISO</a> and was looking forward to installing them and doing some .NET 3.5 developing for free and now I feel I've wasted my bandwidth and I'm gutted ;-) I agree that Microsoft’s “Developers! Developers! Developers!” focus seems to have, shall we say, become blurred?

You’ve got 4 “express” versions that are of no use to people like me.

I’m a really casual developer having never written anything good enough to quality as “give–awayable” so I’m not really sure what features are missing from the express editions that quality this statement? I’ve always though they were genuinely functional products that simply didn’t offer all the “team” development options that I, as a one–man developer, only ever found confusing or filled the menu with options I’d never click?

To think, I’ve downloaded the Visual Studio 2008 Express Editions DVD ISO and was looking forward to installing them and doing some .NET 3.5 developing for free and now I feel I’ve wasted my bandwidth and I’m gutted ;-)

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